by Marlin and has Marlin proofmark under forend. The 303 British is closer to the 300 Savage with a little more power and … However it wasn't as successful in other lever-action rifles because of their tubular magazines. And I can only fire the 150 grain bullets. My 300 savage, built on a Mauser, loved 3031. Despite having a short case and a rather stumpy neck, the cartridge is capable of propelling a 150-grain (9.7 g) bullet at over 2,600 ft/s (790 m/s) with an effective … The 300 Savage was an update of the 303 Savage cartridge that was developed for the 1899 Savage in the mid-1890’s. Using a .300 Savage chambering, any reasonable loads taking advantage of .30/.308 components ,which are easier to find and of greater variety than .303 components, can be kept withing the SMLE rifles safety margin, and its unlikely … Savage Arms created the .303 Savage as part of an unsuccessful attempt at creating a cartridge for the military. Buy in stock 303 Savage ammunition online. Joined: Dec 25, 2002 Messages: As I remember right the 303 has a bit more recoil then the 300 savage. as well as ballistic performance due to its pointed tip. Factory: "Hornady Superformance, 300 Savage 150 gr. It was surpassed when the .300 Savage was introduced, and never became popular as a chambering in other brand rifles. I know the Brit has a little more pop to it but I just love the 300 savage. Only four Savage cartridges made it into production: .303 Savage, .22 Savage High-Power and the .250 and .300 Savage. The gun has been re-blued and the butt stock replaced. I don't think anybody is loading ammo for it any more except specialty shops like Old Western Scrounger at rather high prices. Best Lever Gun Cartridge Showdown: The .300 Savage vs. .30/30 Winchester vs. .45/70 . Bulk Ammunition on sale, including 303 Savage Rifle Rounds. The cartridge was designed for smokeless powder at a time when black-powder cartridges were still popular. Both would be a good round for that. As I remember right the 303 has a bit more recoil then the 300 savage. You'll be hard pressed to get 47gns of RL17 in the case! That is over 90 years ago, math fans. I compared my reloads to factory loads. The bore shows some discoloration but rifling is excellent. [3], The .303 Savage and the .303 British cartridge are not interchangeable with each other. The .303 Savage round was ballistically superior to the .30-30 Winchester, but only marginally. It wasn't as successful in other lever-action rifles because of their tubular magazines. That's amazing! The brass cases can be formed from .30-30 Winchester, .32 Winchester Special, and .38-55 Winchester casings. I really like the 300 Savage in a 760 for deer hunting. The old 300 can do anything a 308 can do but is more difficult to reload because of neck length. Re: .30-30 vs .303 Savage - 04/27/16 Because there's a LOT more .30-30 data available, for a wider variety of bullets. .300 Savage model 99, gun is 60 to 65 years old. The .300 Savage was released in 1920, firing a 150 gr bullet at 2630fps, 70fps shy of the then current .30-06 150 gr loading at 2700fps, an incredible achievement. I actually prefer my 99 in 300 savage to my 308. id get what ever the ammo is cheapest for and a more selection of it. The .303 Savage remained popular through the 1930s. However, the pointed-tip bullets gav… However, it was dropped from production at the end of World War II, and ammunition for the .303 can be difficult to find today. Being a pointed-tip rimmed cartridge, it worked well in the Model 99 rifles that Savage produced because of their rotary magazine. And I can only fire it about five times off a bench rest. I doesn't sound as if you need to get rid of either. Model 1899 Savage, 303 Savage Caliber Description: This is a reconditioned Model 1899 Savage 303 Carbine. The .303 Savage remained popular through the 1930s. The english originaly came out with the long cased belt wearing Hollands super 30 (300 H&H) so they could equal the original ballistcs of the baddest 30 cal around (30-06) with thier long grained cordite propelant and savage did the same thing with thier short little sharp shouldered cartridge. This would be a short cartridge that would approach the ballistics of the 30-06. It was designed to replace the less powerful .303 Savage in their popular Savage Model 99 hammerless lever-action rifle. It was ok. Have not owned a 300 Savage but have owned a 30/40 Krag which is near the Savage. Neither the bullet diameter nor the cartridge dimensions are compatible. Had a 35 rem pump and harvested a few deer a while back. Find 303 Savage Ammo for sale, in-stock and ready to ship at Ammo Freedom. 4320 was only fair. Of your choices, RL15 is the most likely based on my experience. One of the first was the .303 Savage cartridge, which is chambered in this rifle. From what I understand, 303 Sav performs more like a 30-30 and was the precursor to 300Savage. Also you can find 150 grain rounds for both the only thing to say is that the 303 has a bit more speed and impact then the savage. It has a round 20 inch barrel, fold down open sight, rotary magazine with brass cartridge counter. The .303 Savage is a rimmed, .30 caliber rifle cartridge developed by the Savage Arms Company in 1894 which was designed as a short action cartridge for their Savage Model 1895 later 1899 hammerless lever-action rifle. Both would be a good round for that. [2], The .303 Savage has a small, but loyal fraternity of shooters who reload this cartridge. Brands like Hornady, HSM, and Jamison Ammo. I got great results with leverlution in 303 Savage. Price: Was $1,829.99 Now $1,209.66 … by biggamehunter69 » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:50 pm, by caribukiller » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:35 am, by mr.trooper » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:41 pm, by great white hunter » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:57 pm. The 300 Savage is a time tested "deer rifle" that stretches out the effective range vis-a-vi the 30-30. Firearm has the unfired shots indicator on the top of the bolt. The case has a very short neck and if cast bullets is your goal, it is not the best choice. Firearm is missing the screw that holds on the forend. Does anyone else have both rifles and not really notice a difference? The cartridge was designed for smokeless powder at a time when black-powder cartridges were still popular. It has never been the most popular lever gun load, but the .300 Savage retains more energy at longer distances than its closest competitors While major ammunition manufacturers have long since halted production of ammo, dedicated followers can procure loaded ammunition and brass cases through smaller enterprises. The 300 Savage is best with 150 jacketed bullets stepping along in a scope sighted rifle. The .300 Savage enjoys a storied history. Without looking I think the .308 has a little better ballistics that the .300 Savage but if you aren't shooting long distance then it really doesn't matter. [1] Savage produced a half dozen loads for it. The (older) .303 Savage is a rimmed, tapered, bottleneck round in the same ballistic category as the .30-30, except with a heavier bullet, up to 190 grains. The .300 Savage in 81 Remington is the most powerful gun I can fire, because the rifle is really heavy, and most of the recoil is absorbed by the automatic action, and the .300 Savage is less powerful than a .30-06 or .308. Using modern powders, the Hornady Superformance .300 Savage load launches a 150 grain SST bullet at 2740 fps, realizing the full potential of the cartridge. Best, cheap, bulk 303 Savage ammo for sale. If you aren't going to use it then you might as well get something you will instead. After the 308 design was patterned (stolen from) the 300 savage. Well both would take a deer down at close range. The .300 Savage was introduced in 1920 for Savage's popular Model 99 lever rifle. The old flip up style sites and a gun that looked like it hurts when it kicks. And yet the .300 Savage (like the .308) can be downloaded (Gee, what a novel idea) to 30/30 levels (more or less) which is a real "plus". Speaking of which, the older .303 comes close to matching the performance of the .300 Savage that, when it was introduced, was touted as offering “.30-06 performance in a lever rifle.” It never really did, but that’s beside the point. The Savage 99 is a classic rifle. Traded it and haven't missed it. In any case, the .303 Savage was a fine deer and general Class 2 game cartridge and, at moderate range, adequate for Class 3 animals. It was manufactured in 1910. The .300 Savage cartridge is a rimless, .30 caliber rifle cartridge developed by Savage Arms in 1920. Do you have both or are you looking at getting one or the other? The 300 Savage (left), shown here in a DoubleTap custom-loaded, 165-grain Swift Scirocco II, is a very capable cartridge. [4], The .303 Savage by Chuck Hawks (subscription required), The Savage Model 99 by Jon Y Wolfe at Chuck Hawks, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.303_Savage&oldid=1005092482, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 5 February 2021, at 23:28. Well both would take a deer down at close range. Watched my grandpa mow alot of deer down in his day with that gun. However, the pointed-tip bullets gave it a ballistic advantage over other traditional lever-action cartridges such as the .30-30 Winchester. With home loads they chrono about the same. 300 savage When the military and Winchester wanted to change from 30-06 to a new round they used the 300 savage as a model. With the 303, I’m getting a 209 extra fps with it. Even in poor condition, this particular model is worth about $600. When I had my last .303, I compared the water capacity of fired Winchester-brand brass in both cases, as I recall with 170 … Good going with the extra velocity. My dad has one of these, built around 1916, it's a neat rifle. The .303 Savage is a .30 caliber, not related to the .303 British. The .303 Savage is a rimmed, .30 caliber rifle cartridge developed by the Savage Arms Company in 1894 which was designed as a short action cartridge for their Savage Model 1895 later 1899 hammerless lever-action rifle. The Savage 300 ammo was a good alternative to the 30-06 cartridge and was able to fit into a lever action rifle. However, the 300 Winchester Magnum (right), shown here with a 150-grain Hornady SST bullet, flies faster and delivers more downrange energy. Mfg. If it's a Savage M1899 in .303 Savage with the full octagonal barrel, it's worth up to $3500. The 303 brit has my vote I have seen alot of animals taken with this accurate round from 55 inch bull moose to a grizzly ( The 303 is NOT my choosen round for Grizzly bear ). All they basically did was boost the length and neck length just a little and wonder of wonders the 308. Watch for deer and stupid people they'll cost you if you hit one. Savage Arms created the .303 Savage as part of an unsuccessful attempt at creating a cartridge for the military. With its 190-grain loading, it was used on such animals as deer and moose. I have always wondered why everyone seems to think the 308 is a superior cartridge to a 300 savage. The best selection of hunting, self defense, target, shooting, practice, plinking, surplus, jacketed hollow point/JHP, full metal jacket/FMJ, and frangible 303 Savage ammo - buy 1000 rounds or more. When you think about it the ol' savage is the shooting worlds first short mag. The .300 Savage gained immense popularity throughout the U.S as well as receiving an excellent reputation in Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Working with the .300 Savage a couple of years ago, I found the same thing – and for the same reasons. Introduced in 1894, the .303 is a rimmed cartridge using a true-American, .308-inch bullet, rather than the British .303’s .311-inch bullet diameter. The .303 Savage round was ballistically superior to the .30-30 Winchester, but only marginally. With the 300 Savage you have a little more case so you could try that. Also you can find 150 grain rounds for both the only thing to say is that the 303 has a bit more speed and impact then the savage. The .300 Savage was introduced in their great Model 99 lever action rifle in 1921. Although the cartridge was never popular with the military, it did become a popular round for civilian hunters. I know folks that hunt elk with 99s in 300 Savage. 300 savage is an amazing cartridge. ... Ammo 300 Rem Ultra Mag Ammo 300 Remington SAUM Ammo 300 Ruger Compact Mag Ammo 300 Savage Ammo 300 Weatherby Mag Ammo 300 Win Mag Ammo 300 Win Short Mag Ammo 303 British Ammo 303 Savage Ammo 307 … wankerjake, Jan 8, 2011 #13. redneck2 Member. Although the cartridge was never popular with the military, it did become a popular round for civilian hunters. 303 british... oh the memories. It offers improvement in muzzle velocity over the .30-30 Win. Superior to the 308 in my eyes for pure accuracy. Regardless, 300 Savage in a Savage 99 is an excellent choice– I have three 99s in 300 Savage and one in 308 Winchester. if it's in excellent condition. New propelants have left the little indian in the dust but at one time it was a true stud among rifle cartridges so I never feel underguned when I carry mine. Being a pointed-tip rimmed cartridge, it worked well in the Model 99 rifles that Savage produced because of their rotary magazine. The .300 Savage was a big step above the .30/30 and old .303 Savage and, if one looks closely, it is still shoulder to shoulder with the much newer and much-ballyhooed .308 Win. i would get a full auto bren gun .303 brit for deer. WOW! The cartridge was developed shortly after World War I. Americans were happy with lever action rifles but wanted something more powerful than the .30-30 or the .303 Savage. At that time bolt-action rifles (especially the .30-06 Springfield 1903) were gaining favor with hunters, and Savage sought to up the Model 99's performance from its original .303 Savage chambering. The .300 Savage uses a short (1.871 inches long) case with very little body taper, a sharp 30 degree shoulder and a short neck to maximize powder capacity. +or- 100fps or so. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Standard American factory loads for the .303 Savage drove a round nose 190 grain, .311" diameter bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 1980 fps and muzzle energy of 1650 ft. lbs. 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